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(Please keep in mind that I don't mean to insult anyone, but "Elsanna" just brings out the worst in me and incest is simply and honestly unacceptable, that must be understood!)

First and foremost, incest is disgusting, repulsive, sad, depressing, creepy, unhealthy, unacceptable, unethical, illegal, immoral, insane, sick, bad, and wrong. There's nothing good about it (regardless whether its consensual or not). People who consider incest acceptable and either supports it or practice it (regardless of whether we're talking fiction or real-life) are seriously mentally ill/confused and needs to seek professional help immediately. I'm not at all against people even going to jail for this (NOT for shipping "Elsanna"). Remember, I'm not saying people should go to jail for it, I'm just saying I'm not against people going to jail for it. It sickens me to see incest (especially in relation to a movie like Frozen which tributes family-love and the power of love) and Elsanna/ElsaxAnna-related "artworks" wherever I go. I cannot respect the person who supports incest. Had Anna and Elsa seen what people are doing with them in their ships and fandoms, they would probably throw up and back off.

While we're at it, I definitely don't support pornography either (especially not with the characters from Frozen, it is so disrespectful to them and their creators and their fans)! Well, no sane human being should. DeviantArt is not a place for porn and it is so frustrating seeing it wherever I go! I feel sad for the people who support awful, wrong and disgusting things like this.

I recommend this brilliant and informative article on the topic:
When I search for Frozen in Google or DeviantArt, the last thing I want to see is Elsanna/incest. This could even traumatize and confuse children who happen to stumble upon it somehow. Incest is normally considered taboo among [sane] people all over the world, and they seem to understand and naturally know that incest is wrong and should be despised, and this is how it should stay. The person who supports incest shows no respect towards boundaries or the family-relationship or the family-values and morals. Had Anna and Elsa seen what people are doing with them in their ships and fandoms, they would probably throw up.

Also read this:
Also, some people even go as far as saying "Elsanna is canon", which it isn't. In the canon (which is to be preferred), Anna and Elsa are simply sisters who love (NOT romantic/incestuous) each other, and Kristoff is Anna's boyfriend, and they dearly love each other (THIS is romance). Elsa and Anna's relationship is exclusively platonic, as they are family-members/siblings/sisters. Period. End of story. By the way, "true love" does NOT necessarily mean romantic love, that was a big point in the movie. NO, this movie was NOT about incest, that's completely ridiculous!!!

And see this:
I also see people claiming that the way Anna and Elsa look at each other is due to "romance" between the two, but this isn't true! This just goes to show the purest and most beautiful and closest of love you can ever have. Family-love is the best love, and the way these two sisters act is both understandable (due to their troubled history and they only have each other left) and realistic due to how you can observe many siblings act today. I mean I don't want to "kiss" or "sleep" with my sibling just because I look at them with love, compassion and understanding.

Another brilliant read:
And the reason Anna was nervous when she talked to Elsa during the coronation is simply because she's NERVOUS! Not because of incest. She's been away from Elsa for so long, and I know from experience that you can get nervous when you haven't met your siblings in a long while. I really hate when people misinterpret or force their incestuous fantasies on Frozen..........

And another:
Previously, it happened that I found Jelsa- and Helsa-shipping to be a bit disturbing, but I can tolerate it, because it's not nearly as much of a serious issue as Elsanna/incest. I don't wish to be rude, but to be honest, "Elsanna" deserves all the hate that it gets. I don't want this "ship" to exist simply, and I believe a great deal of people agrees with me on that.

And finally:
Also, you can't compare homosexuality to incest, they're completely different things and the issue of incest is so much worse and serious!

I also recommend that you take a look at and supports this group:
I greatly thank all the people who dares to stand up against this blasphemous "shipping"! We must stand up for true love, and what it actually means, not insanity.

This video below by another user is also helpful:



Here's another [disgusting] video (from the movie That's My Boy) where we see a great and proper reaction towards incest from actor Adam Sandler (WARNING! Adult content!):


I think this adds a little to this aswell:





(Anti-Elsanna! ;D True, pure and beautiful sisterly love for the win! <3)

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EveLeech Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
I still think Jelsa is worse because of how lovesick fangirls ship them both just because they both have ice/snow powers.

But I would have shipped Anna and Elsa together........IF ONLY THEY WEREN'T SISTERS. 

I didn't expect Anna to get a lot of love, I've seen many people talk about her as "boring" and "annoying" and "plain useless."

Also many cheered on that Elsa is the only suitable party member for Kingdom Hearts 3 and someone named WarpChaos claims that Hans, Kristoff, Olaf, and Anna "can't do anything" because they don't have "powers."

So automatically ice powers=person is useful in a fight? And that no ice powers=person can't do stuff?

These people are laughable. This is why I quit the Frozen fanbase long ago.
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I wouldn't ship any of them regardless.
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ShawnRaven666 Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2016
Honestly after quite a while...and after evaluating all options and reasoning (moral and logic included) the very ship itself has no concrete meaning other than to establish a fantastical escapade for anyone who needs to give themselves an excuse to break a boundary in realism.

In which, no matter how good or elaborate it is interpreted...will ultimately fail because it is ultimately pointless due to the stark fact that the message originally established for a pair of sisters is that they are sisters bound by blood and had gone through 13 years of a bad parenting decision and finally got reunited properly after the elder one had a breakdown and froze their kingdom, thus forcing the naive younger one to get her ass up to get her down from a mountain before the sociopath who she laid out her emotions too indirectly helped them to reunite with the theme of 'true love'  (in this case, family love) after almost killing the elder one in the middle 

Simple as that. What's really fucking incestuous about this? Oh wait, that's right, shoehorn it into one fleeting second that seems to imply it...and boom, ELSANNA. 

Are their lives really that empty??? 

If they were going REALLY to fuck each other, I wouldn't give two shits honestly...but heck, I'm not pulling any strings to watch it and forget about it unless Disney decides to cater to this vapid fanbase. 

Until then, they have nothing but fan arts and fanfiction that will ultimately never be enough to satisfy nor please them. If these idiots actually have a semblance of 'love' towards this ship, they'd actually stop spreading it like a virus and just shut up about the whole thing, and drown themselves in this so called 'love' until they can find another batch of characters much better than either of them to obsess and get brain dead over.

Ugh, this is why I prefer the other two movies that came after this one, and Tangled. Less bullshit themes for the world to go bonkers about that crosses religion and morality...
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TheBlueDragon15 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2016  Student Filmographer
Helsa is just as bad though
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EveLeech Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2017
Helsa is horrible. The ship has no romantic chemistry and fangirls make Hans into a redeemed Disney Prince just 'cause he's "handsome." Hans never was genuinely nice to Elsa, he was just using her and Anna to get to the Arendelle throne.
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TheBlueDragon15 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2017  Student Filmographer
Yea, i agree. I really hate Helsa. But people are free to ship whatever they want.
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I think I can tolerate Helsa, I mean it doesn't cross any major borders, but yeah, it's still pretty bad.
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LightningDraco Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2016  Student Artist
Yesterday, I saw two CHILDREN'S TEE-SHIRTS in a store that had one showing Anna and Elsa looking at each other, holding hands, and the border around the picture is flowers former the border of hearts.  Oh and guess what!  Floating hearts near their heads too!

The other is the same thing, but with just the head shots.  Those shirts screamed "romance" and I felt disturbed when I saw them!
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I do think that a picture like that can be interpreted both ways - either as romance or quite simply as merely the love and friendship between two girls, and in this case, two sisters. It doesn't necessarily have to depict "gay romance" or incest. But I do understand your concern and I must say I'm pretty torn on this issue. :-/
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LightningDraco Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2016  Student Artist
It still makes me uncomfortable now when I think about the characters now.
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I hear you. :/
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Pixalysparkelz Featured By Owner May 11, 2016  Student General Artist
I couldn't have said it better myself :)
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner May 12, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
;) (Wink) 
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PinkiePieGummy101 Featured By Owner Edited Feb 27, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconpinkieisexcitedplz: :iconsaysplz: Yes, just yes, you my friend are my savior
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
;) (Wink) Sweating a little... 
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PinkiePieGummy101 Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconpinkiesmileplz: :iconsaysplz: I still can't believe, people don't understand the interpretation of 'True Love'.
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CaptainBucketMe Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Student General Artist
The concept of "true love" has been tied with romantic love for so long that they're pretty much inextricable in popular thought, so when it's put into a platonic context instead, it's only natural that people would jump to romance. :)
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PinkiePieGummy101 Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconpinkiepiewaitwutplz: :iconsaysplz; I just wish they look deeper into a dictionary so they could understand the meaning of True love, but you make a good point. Nowadays people ship when they really see two characters stand close to one another without observing the actual chemistry.
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eMtekcuBniatpaC Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2016
I'm not an ElsAnna Shipper, I don't ship Elsa with nobody... But this is so offensive for me...
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Offensive in what way?
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eMtekcuBniatpaC Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016
You know in what way this is offensive
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
No, I don't. You say you don't even support "Elsanna", so how is this offensive?
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I think the major difference between you and me is that I take the things of this world seriously and not loosely.
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CaptainBucketMe Featured By Owner Edited Jan 25, 2016  Student General Artist
Hi, Pellchinn!

I don't support any kind of incest, but only I'm agree in tolerate the consensual incest.

My opinion is simple: to each his own. I've never been harmed by siblings loving each other. Everybody can love whoever they want. Who am I to judge them for it? Who am I to declare it a taboo? As long as an action does not harm anyone except the acting person it should not be prohibited in my opinion.

I am well aware of the biological risks. I just don't believe in prohibiting and judging that kind of relationship. Those couples should be well aware about any consequences for their child and might consider adoption. That's all I'm saying. I'm no one that declares something taboo or bad.

The kind of 
incest that I disagree is the forced incest, you know, these sick parents sexually abusing her daughers, pedophile mothers raping her sons, etc...

I don't care whether they are sisters.
In fact, I think that it makes the pairing even cuter, because it's forbidden love and forbidden love is the most romantic and dramatic love that exists.

Just you have to understand that everyone cannot have the same likes, if he doesn't hurt nobody, nothing would happen bad.

Have a good day, m8! I hope you don't delete my comment. :)
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joeyjoe561 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2016
wait females can't rape people
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
To each their own, I can agree with that. If someone wants to cut themselves in the arm, of course it's sadly their own choice, but I am such an individual who will be striving for making this world a better place and not a world were moral-relativism rules - no one wants to live in such a world, and those who might claim they do don't actually realize what they're saying. I won't be supportive of any wrong-doings. People know naturally that incest is wrong and we know it does physical and mental harm, hence why it is even taboo in the first place. Incest is as cute as is pedophilia. We always care. We only claim "not to care" when there's something ego and [deliberately] blind going on inside our minds. I am well aware that everyone has different tastes, but some "tastes" are not to be encouraged nor accepted. Example; golf and football are acceptable tastes that are not immoral, whereas incest and pedophilia are not acceptable tastes that are immoral. People should know better.
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CaptainBucketMe Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2016  Student General Artist
Please, don't compare consensual incest with pedophilia, these are two very diferent terms.

Unnatural things are made by human.
They're things that don't exist is the (free) nature, like cars or mobile phones.
But feelings are naturally and love is a feeling!

A true sick person is one that want to have sex with her sister (by example) because yes, without a reason.
But a brother and her sister that are sweethearts know perfectly if they are sick or not, in my country (Spain) the consensual incest isn't illegal, the illegal is the bestiality, pedophilia and the sick people that rapes her sister or cousin, etc...

You don't have to support the consensual incest, simply consider this as a other type of love.
There are so many cases of consensual incest (including homosexual incest), and they persons are happy being with the person who really wish. :)

I hope you have a good day!
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
The fact that these are different things doesn't justify either one or the other. Both are morally, legally, mentally and biologically wrong and unhealthy. I support true and pure love. Not wicked and impure "love". And whether a person is "happy" committing a sinful act doesn't at all justify the act. Just because the pedophile is "happy" that means I should accept what he does? No, definitely not. Sin is part of our human nature, but we are told by Christ our Creator to turn from our sins, not endorse them, because supporting sin will inevitably corrupt our world and seal our eternal doom. I hope that people will learn the errors of their ways. No, I disagree! :( (Sad) Rage Heart 
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Saddust Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2016
What you say about elsanna could apply to other things like homosexuality... Negative displays are never a good thing, IMHO. But of course, it's your "right" to express your dislikes... 
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CaptainBucketMe Featured By Owner Edited Apr 12, 2016  Student General Artist
The fact that these are different things doesn't justify either one or the other. Both are morally, legally, mentally and biologically wrong and unhealthy.
Incest: Love relations between family members.
Pedophilia: Sexual feelings directed towards children.

Sorry man, but your comparisons make no sense. Children can't consent to sex, it's like me saying that dogs and tigers are the same thing because they both have four legs, two ears and one tail.
Sin is part of our human nature, but we are told by Christ our Creator to turn from our sins, not endorse them, because supporting sin will inevitably corrupt our world and seal our eternal doom. I hope that people will learn the errors of their ways.
You're free to say what you want; but you can't push your feelings and morality on others, we can't pretend that because you have a religion, the world must live according to it.

Some people feel the same toward same-sex relationships, these kind of people are called homophobic persons. I hope you can understand me.

Regards!
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
You imply that "consent" somehow makes it right and what makes it less immoral and unhealthy than pedophilia. What if an incestual couple consented to demolish someone's house, murder someone, or have sex with a child? My point of that is of course that consent alone doesn't justify the act. I'm not pushing anything on anyone, but just as I would pull a child off the road before being killed by a truck, I will stand for what is right. I won't just stand by and watch the child's life end in a horrific way without the child even realizing or wish to be aware. Incest, pedophilia, and homosexuality are immoral and unhealthy acts. I understand these topics very well, and that because of experience.
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CaptainBucketMe Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016  Student General Artist
Good for you, mate.

But remember, It boils down to this: while it does not hurt anyone, everyone is free in his private life.
And what the people does, it should not matter to anyone but the person himself and those who decide to participate.

I don't understand why it is so difficult to understand for people like you, no offense.

Regards!
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Except it hurts themselves, and the possibility and risk that they may influence others (who may even take things much too far) is always present. The real issue is that, while God gave mankind the gift of free will, mankind choose to do evil and wicked things that will earn them a place in Hell, and so while it's one thing to hurt themselves in this realm, they will have to face eternal judgment at the moment their souls exit their non-functioning body. It is definitely their own choice what they choose to do with their lives, but that won't stop people from being concerned about and seeking to help them because of love, care and compassion as well as if they are influencing others to commit similar acts of wicked evil, then people will definitely be concerned and react. People are concerned for both their sake and others, seeing as people are so easily influenced and confused by interesting or exciting wicked things. :( (Sad) 

I don't see what it is that I supposedly "do not understand". I hear what you're saying, but just as I would tell a young child that it's not okay to hit and mock their younger sibling, I will point out the flaws in your own reasoning. We want to live in a society where people respect the moral concepts of right and wrong, as well as those of truth and lies. Not in a confused, ego-centered, relativistic society where anything goes and you can't justify what is right and wrong and where you jeopardize the lives, health, safety and freedom of everyone. A society should be based upon God's teachings of love and education, not the Devil's preachings of moral liberation and entertainment. God even died on the cross for our sake, to pay our debt, because He loves us all so very much. Heart 
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe any truly sane individual will realize that incest is wrong.
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joker-nick Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
But yeah, incest is gross
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Indeed!
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joker-nick Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Plus it's the "forbidden romance" quality to it that makes the stories interesting to read, reading about how they react and how the world reacts around them. 
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I can understand that, I mean it's common human nature to find interest in such things (regardless of how strange or wicked it may be).
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joker-nick Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
What about the elsanna stories where they are not portrayed as sisters? Those aren't incest.
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That doesn't really matter, because we all still know that they were officially made as sisters and we all know them as sisters, so it's pretty hard to see them as anything else.
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VincentCruise Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2015
I just quote Supernatural on this...

Dean: What's a slash fan
Sam: as in Sam slash Dean... together
Dean: as in together together
Sam: Yeah
Dean: They do know we're brothers, right?
Sam: Doesn't seem to matter. 
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL! xD
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EvaSharpchan Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2015   Artist
I don't know If we could compare this Incest to Selfcest, Friendcest, Mirrorcest, and Rivalcest.
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Pellchinnn Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay...
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GirMonster Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I will NEVER ship Elsanna. I even if it is fictional. I ended up blocking someone on Youtube because they were trying to convince me with a history lesson; with logic that didn't apply to the argument, that incest is ok. And that I should not be biased and "hateful" towards it when I was just stating my opinion about it. The argument is actually on that first video you listed. Though I'm not sure if it is the whole argument now. I can take gay fan couples with it out bothering me, in fact I support gay rights/marriage. But you would have to brainwash and torture me, to make me support incest like Elsanna. And I fear for people that do. 
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GirMonster Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
*without it*
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